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Right to the top of the Pad I reckon this should go so...here we are:
Developing a dynamic SOW for KS3 in ICT - The conference is ON ON ON
Moodle Site for resource testing and development now at http://ictcurric.moodlehub.com tweet or DM @astburyp for admin access
3/6/10.
Venue is Hudds Uni and we have network access, coffee breaks morn and aft, lunch and some limited free parking spaces.
Sharing resources using Google Docs:
If you have something you'd like to share (either at the meet or in general) upload it to Google Docs: http://docs.google.com/a/ictcurric.org.uk/ & share with the following people:
"James Greenwood" <jpgreenwood@ictcurric.org.uk>, "Nick Jackson" <largerama@ictcurric.org.uk>, "Donna Hay" <dwsm@ictcurric.org.uk>, "Sarah Evans" <jennah1000@ictcurric.org.uk>, "Pete Astbury" <astburyp@ictcurric.org.uk>, "Chris Allan" <infernaldepart@ictcurric.org.uk>, "Zoe Ross" <zoeross19@ictcurric.org.uk>
If you don't have an ictcurric.org.uk account & would like one, drop me a note (@jpgreenwood) :)
Mindmap begun for you to contribute to here: http://www.mindmeister.com/51700785/yr-7-entry Password: ictcurric Can't add to the MM, can see it, but not edit
Number 1 - who is definitely coming?
Attending:
- @jpgreenwood (James)
- @dwsm ( Donna )
- @jennah1000 (Sarah)
- @largerama (Nick)
- @zoeross19 (Zoe)
- @astburyp (Pete)
- Roger Crawford, Hudds Uni
- Shirley Crossley (Leeds)
Number 2 - we have to look closely at what the agenda is for the day.
I have created a google doc of the agenda so far and as you can see there is potential for a lot of the day to be about where we have got to and plan to get to with the down side being may be not a lot being created. Please contribute.
Wiill you be working or sharing online? Will be interested to follow, maybe contribute from here? very likely, will bookmark and visit, this sound amazing. - Who is this? Is it Zoe? No Simon @twowhizzy
Would love to share this event online but logistics...Any ideas?
Yep I'm in - Donna hi, gotta run, but hi!!
Me! Sarah @jennah1000. What shall we bring (other than laptops?)
Me (@jpgreenwood) - will bring our resource dumping ground (external HDD we're putting everything on to in order to sort out the KS3 curriculum) will bring mine also.
Room will have networked computers but you can bring laptops and user names passwords should get you on the wireless network
I need definite numbers by Friday really and in the meantime we need an agenda.
Roger Crawford http://www2.hud.ac.uk/staffprofiles/staffcv.php?staffid=440 has very gratefully provided all of the arrangements for us and will be joining us sparodically throughout the day. I'm sure his vast experience in the more "serious"side of education (read his profile) will be a worthwhile addition It'll be great to see Roger again, was hoping he'd be involved :) Thought you would James. I told him you were coming today
A starter of going back to basics - what are we trying to achieve with KS3?
Along my lines of thinking yes
But do we need agreement on the fact that we are following APP/KS3 POS etc?
I think APP is a good framework but may not survive the new government
You think? Hmm so I've reqd over the weekend - New labour so may be dumped on principal
Also an issue is whether we can cover what we need to get through in 2 years
is year 9 an essential KS3 year or a head start to KS4 - another debate question
i have only y8 to have 'fun', y9 will be new ocr nate, but they look good, y7 is a collapsed curr. but i want to build far more ict into it
Fraid for my current situation this is a given so Im looking at a 2 yr model2 years is probably what I'm looking at in new school but still not convinced this is the best course of action - agree that it may not be negotiable - crap spelling when in real time 2yr KS3 for me too, but 2hrs/wk with every class, so enough time to actually get things done. that's double my time, so you should be ok Double my time too. 1 hr per week in 7 and 8. I really am counting my blessings - hope to god they don't take the time away from us - glad it's not happening next year, at least.
I like APP. It's solid, it's broad and it seems to work. What I don't like is that within three years we've had three different assessment methodologies introduced - the 2008 descriptors, APP & now the Primary Review not heard of thesedescriptors which reintroduce sensors & data logging. Heard about them at the latest subject leaders meet for Kirklees. Non-statutory atm, but likely to be ratified. when are they likely to come in? These are new to me also. Was dughall bringing this info to you James?
Sadly not - it was Dave Luke, Kirklees ICT Consultant. I'd quite like to get either him or Pauline Hargreaves (@PaulineAH on Twitter) to come along... they've been huge helps to me this year. I will ask dughall to come if you want That'd be great - as much as anything I've never met him.
How about a bit of that vision stuff - ideal world - what are we trying to achieve?
SUMMARY of going back to basics:
- Assessment methods - Does SOW take into account new Primary Review, APP and KS3 POS
- Curriculum model - Hours per week; 2 or 3 year model; levels expected
- What assumed prior learning is expected (in KS2)
- What other factors/progression must be accounted for (preparing for KS4/ FS, etc)
A show and tell section - how far have we got individually?
yes, but it'll be a tell and tell for me!! not a lot to show Dont worry about that Sarah I'm hoping to do a little show & tell when it comes to one or two specific projects we run - the extended types with lots of mileage - but then it comes down to what do we want to achieve & how are we hoping to do that. I have almost free rein on y8 for next year, so it should give me a lot of room for shaking things up a bit! I wrote the y7/8 schemes on the back hoof over the last two years. They are what they are, but massive room for improvement. As far as I'm concerned I'm fine with junking the lot and getting some real engaging, far-reaching stuff into play (better!). can't wait to hear some new ideas What about you Donna? You done loads already. How much of that do you want to change?Innovation v practicality- functional skills will hit us all - build in support in an innovative curriculum or have the lot thrown out - that's my main issue. to turn round into a positive statement - are we letting students down if we do not prepare them for business requirements KS4 courses provide for that -do I want to teach interesting stuff to the detriment of what students need? we need to be careful not to simply move the 'boring wall' for KS2-3 transition to KS3-4good point - need to consider KS4 but may need to be a separate meetingagreed! Agreed although the new nats do look fairly nice for Y9, unit 1 at least - I'm looking to update my SoWs to map to the new nats over the summer, with the view to doing first award (1 GCSE equiv) in yr9 3 units? (yeah, haven't quite worked out the logistics yet!), followed up by Edexcel GCSE for top two sets after that, or extending the OCR Nats work for middle sets.
Think we have to take into account KS2 and KS4 but it is KS3 that is the focus
what levels are we working at?
!we have a worrying number of students with forecast data of level 6-8 - by the end of y8! we rarely get 6s, mostly 4-5 blimey! they do target L6, but most aren;t able - very low reading ages for the majority of my kids, they do a lot better with visual units ditto. Targets wildly optimistic, effectively worthless.
targets based on english and maths sats rather than ICT? We just end up going for teacher-set targets rather than the FFT/Jesson data. Woolly, but workable.
SUMMARY of show and tell:
- Current projects/past projects what works/has worked well?
- Tools used
- Topics covered
What issues do we have with what we have achieved individually?
Lack of support from SLT - no time/money for curriculum development.Snap, my main limit is time, 1h pw. i've asked fo the bands to be timetabled at the same time to allow for movement and carousel stuff, but i doubt i'll get it
One of our big problems is literally no communication with primaries - or VI form colleges do you have a ks3 co? nope. hmm, that's me , for a couple more weeks at least, and part of it is primary links and transition in ICT *love* the idea of that, desperate to establish the role in my school. Me as acting HoD, "no more money" for more responsibility.will you get real HoD> hehe, that's an interesting question :)KS2/3 transition is a great opportunity if we have time to organise it.ooh yes - we need something 'proper' to be done, LA tried a couple of years back, bbut didn't pass any of it to the secondaries Seconded! I see great stuff coming from the likes of Emma Barker (local primary coordinator) but just don't get the time to invest. I have a 9 year old daughter and some of the stuff she is doing just seems a waste of time - but if you are not an ICT specialist and have no support what can you achieve? - then you look at some of the primary teacher s on Twitter and they are achieving amazing things Absolutely. Volunteered a lot in primaries pre-PGCE and saw an awful lot of well-meaning, enthusiastic amateurs at the helm. Was roasted slightly for being quoted as saying so in the TES! yes, i think some primary teachers are fantastic at their own stuff, but not knowledgable enough about the ICT to pitch it right to their kids
Inconsistency between feeder primaries is another issue - we have one or two that do ICT really, really well - others that don't. Thus in y7 we have some students twiddling their thumbs while others sweat. true. What practically can we do about this - is there any scope in personalising the learning to take into account prior learning or does yr7 need to be whole class teaching - debate point not an answer at this stage
how do we accommodate level 7/8 in a curriculum? Building in such depth & possibilities for further, independent learning is a big ask, but something I'd love to have a bash at.
SUMMARY of individual issues:
- Technology, curriculum, learners, non-specialist staff etc etc that should be borne in mind before we commence creating the goodies
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Original Discussion
Hi - been out of the loop with this a bit (apologies-mind on other things at mo). This sounds amazing & I would really love to be involved. Is that half term - I will see what I'm up to.
yes the thurs of half term - be good to have you - many minds and all that!
Thanks Sarah! Sounds fab! I will check with babysitters tomorrow to see if they are able to look after son - well done for conning mum, that is what I'll be trying to do! If I can't come for any reason, I will stick all my ideas somewhere for you all - but to be honest this is SO right up my street that I will try my best to be there!
I've conned my mum into a day off! we could keep this PP open, allow for online presence
That would be great! I'd definitely like to contribute. Am off checking travelling time now :)
Where are you coming from?
Near liverpool - it's about an hour and a half, so not too bad. Funnily enough I've just been writing a blog post on getting creative with the ICT KS3 curriculum - great minds & all that!
I can't wait for next year - so many changes i wnat to make
I've made loads this year & would definitely want to make more next year (am leaving my job as HOICT thought!?) It's been really great seeing how the students have gone from thinking ICT was a naff subject to being incredibly engaged & getting v creative/thking independently, so I know what you mean about being excited!
we started ocr nats in y8&9, and it is as boring as mud. gotta do something or we will all die of boredom
Oh dear - luckily have managed to avoid those as teach in independent school. Lots of animation, programming etc - fun :)!
looking at animation, moviemaking, web graphics, web pages, podcasting, anything that'll make them think, and do stuff for themselves
Absolutely! It sounds like you are thinking along the same lines as me and I have to say I've been really delighted with how the students have responded - I will send you my overview SOW if you like to have a look at - if I don't make it, it might be something that helps/can be ripped apart :)!
yes please! did web graphics w yr8, lower middle sets, and i found myself saying, 'take the image to fireworks, resize it, then export it' and the kid went off happy enough to do it - amazing!!
Fab - it takes a wee bit of hard work (& repetition!) but when they get it & are really confident in knowing what they are doing, it's really great! Well done! We've got creative partnerships coming in after half term to work with them, not too sure what they;ll be doing yet
what creative partnerships? A program that puts money into schools to buy in artists, equipment etc to carry out projects with the kids. we did an Images project last year, photos, , sounds and stuff that represent the kids. Y7 did a recycled fashion show at christmas with them
Brilliant! they really love having other people working with them, don't they! Shall I email you the SOW or is there somewhere I can put it? yes, email it to me please - sammey90@hotmail.com - thanks Cool - will try to do it tomorrow, but certainly by end of the week (will need to remember where I've put it!) thank you gotta go - hope to see you soon & you! Will go & finish this blog post! :)
Sarah - really sorry, just spotted the bit about taking 'St' out of your name - I got it from your email address! Just Sarah Evans? yep, i changed it! we haved st- and 09- (etc) at school doy - should have known, who the hell is St Evans? ;) Me!!
So now we have a barebones Wordpress installation, I need some help with what we want to actually use it for before opening it up for use. Please add any ideas below so I can try to add them:
- @KristianStill suggested installing BuddyPress. I'm not sure taking the discussion off Twitter is the way to go with this unless we're happy with the idea of restricting the discussion to just those involved right now... more people are likely to jump in by seeing the hashtagged posts on Twitter, imo. Thoughts? Agreed - i only stumbled on the original convo the other night. Also agree - need a wide range of people sharing ideas - need to stay on Twitter. Hmm not sure about this one. I think Twitter is best place for it at mo I agree that this should still be on twitter as you may get others involved (latecomers)
- Would it be worth putting up transcripts of the various conversations we've had since we started the discussion? A chat archive? yes, lets people catch up, prevents too much repetition. Wonder if there are any websites that allow for pulling archives of hashtags... don't fancy the idea of having to copy & paste it all in manually. there must be something...there was an article a while back of people pulling the location infor from tweets http://twapperkeeper.com/index.php would this do-know it's been used before for similar purpose
- Should we ditch the idea of using it as a blog, or have users post opinion pieces like my APP thing up there? not used WP before, so not sure which would work best, is there a 'happy medium'? Either would work, it's more a question of what kind of content do we want. The focus has to be on actually achieving something, but those kinds of post may prove useful for the people involved (had a lot of discussion based on my APP post, that's what got me involved), so it might be worth keeping it as a "blog with extras". sounds about right, then peeps can post interesting stuff, and we can discuss it or other things KS3 - I would like a section on where we are all up to at the moment and what issues need addressing. Then brainstorming ideas to overcome. Also going back to basics - what are we trying to achieve with KS3? Think we should discuss curric as a whole but then when it comes to resources, SOWs etc then best to separate. Mind you depends if the goal is an ideal secondary school ICT curric yet I think there are still too many issues with particular school politics for KS4 to be influenced by us all
- KS4 - pool ideas on current options. I agree - separate coverage of KS3/KS4 would be a helpful starting point, but we do need to draw them together for the overview. Also likely KS4 future - the message from our LA advisor is that going forward there will only be GCSEs, Diploma and apprenticeships. Where does that leave vocational quals? That's pretty worrying... we aren't the only school that would struggle to crowbar in the Diploma, especially on such a large scale if we had to replace vocational quals with it. As I understood it, schools can group together to offer diplomas, and there's a loophole about having to offer it, but not actually teach it?! Diploma for ICT has been nothing short of a joke in our LEA IT Diploma has very little IT in it and the kids hate it. We were in the first cohort to offer it 2 years ago and no school in our partnership wants to run it next year.
- ^ On that note, we've tentatively agreed to meet in June, but what about a couple of web conferences? that sound like a plan, esp if we get to be a fairly spread-out group. I'm up for web conference and face to face meet. Web conferences well up for to get a lot of these point we are raising here finalised
- Going to set up user accounts for anyone who wants one, and would like to put short blurbs on the "Who's involved?" page. Good Idea
- So is this a record of our tweet convos, or a place for the actual conversations? I reckon it's the place to take them beyond 140 characters. I've seen BuddyPress in action before, and it's pretty good, but it's not Twitter. I think that's the place for the back-and-forth, this is the place to keep it all recorded & take it further.ok Agreed
- Looks good - are you keeping the design? Are the tweet coming from a feed, or have you cp them over? I quite like it, but it's down to what the rest of you think, and the tweets are pulled in by a plugin. It's done automatically, but I'm not a fan of the formatting (we need to ditch the avatars & some of the links), and it does odd things with the time stamp if it's a recent tweet. "-1 years ago" doesn't make much sense. :D
Hi, Sarah :) Just noticed you. and you - this is surreal! Try it with a class ;) will do, have you used wall wisher? Nope, what is it?
wallwisher.com, gives a blank workspace, that any user can stick a 'post it' to ahhh, yeah, saw it a while back. Never used it, though. used it in CDP sessions, it's good but the kids insult each other! I did the same with Etherpad (the app this is based on) to get teachers to digest some level descriptors by putting them into pupil speak, editing in real-time. Worked well, but yeah, there's always a risk with the wee ones!
Right, I'm gonna scarper for a bit - be on later, and feel free to put anything else down you think of :) OK, will do! see ya later
As mentioned above, I think we have to sort out whether we are looking to influence whatever exam board (for KS4), Govt and whatever schools will listen re providing a decent, useful and relevnat ICT curric. Or are we just coming up with it for ourselves. My original basis for the #ictcurric was rooted in being p**ed off with ICT curric and demands to focus on the dull elements and as can be seen in some of my tweets, the fact that KS4 GCSEs and nearly every KS5 course I come across are so ancient and unattractive it's unbelievable. Maybe, its both of these we are aiming at or if it is just us getting damn good KS3 and KS4 resources sorted and planned collaboratively then that in itself is worth it for me judging by the quality of resources I have seen from contributors here- Nick
The prospect of having an impact on the kinds of course we see released by exam boards at KS4/5 is wildly attractive, but can we find someone in a position to help to actually listen? If we start with developing & sharing resources, we may well gain momentum to the point of catching the eye of someone like this.
Nick - agree with all of that, the issue at my school has always been the seeming decline between the fun / interesting ict at primary, down to the most tired and boring rubbish at KS4/5. I'd love to make all of KS3 exciting, fun, interesting etc, but there is still that boring old wall of ks4 courses I think that there is a fair amount of freedom now in the KS3 curriculum to make it fun and interesting and if we can build stronger links with feeder primaries we could smooth that transition. The big hurdle is getting anything worthwhile at KS4/5 it isn't so much the transition, it used to be the limits of what could be done, and i agree ks3 can now be a lot better, but then ks4 falls flat
ICT should be the one subject that kids love to be in, but they seem to endure it
So a key outcome is seeing if we can identify an engaging KS4 course, adapt an existing one so that it becomes engaging or influence an exam board to provide one
Functional skills is another issue that needs considering. Even if you are not running the IT Diploma if your school runs any Diploma you will be required to get the students through the Diploma. At my school the pass rates in some cohorts has been down as low at 11% We've started to stream functional skills classes and even top sets are getting only around 50% passrate. No ICT Fucntional skills - no Diploma i've looked at fs tests (ocr), and will be trying them with y9 this term (level 2 seem s far easier to understand than L1)The problem with functional skills is the exam and applying what the students have learnt. They have got so used to being told how to do stuff so that we can get them through coursework they can;t cope with applying the learning in a different context. it didn't look too bad, maybe i'm missing something I'm not teaching it at the moment so not too sure whether it's the qual or how it's being taught, resources and also time allocated. ICT is an option at KS4 - so
we fight for curriculum time to teach it. same here, most only get 1hr / week
Functional skills are set to get harder once they are out of pilot - minimum of 80% has to be applied learning that's the 'for 2010' test, anyway, just want to see how they go
I think you have been a fly on the wall when I have said "decline between the fun / interesting ict at primary" LOL
walls have ears ;) i know i visit our main primary, and the kids ar buzzing with what they can do, get to us and can barely remember their password from week to week
Do u hav 6th form? yes, but i don';t teach them, could be next year Is there no post 16 ICT?
sorry, yes, but the HOD has them, and the dept newbie! i'm a lowly ks3 Co! What course is taught and how many students?
there are two groups, i think, aroun 35 altogether, they used to do OCR nats L3, but they had to change that because there was no AS equivalent, if kids dropped ICT at the end of y12, they got nothing (i think!!) is ur school high achieveing? noooooooooooooooooooooooo
actually, to be fair the 6th form do fairly well, GCSE around 35% with a tailwind
Whereas we are around 80% incl Eng and Maths and an outstanding 6th form so they are only intetrested in what unis are interested in really
blimey! ours pretend to be, but a lot stay because that's the next thing to do. we do have a few stars, but not in general...i think i need to talk to you a little more!!! (need to raise our achievement!) ICT pass rate for this year is looking aroun 70% at KS4?
yes, OCR nats, but should be highr nats are a doddle 100% this yr with OCR Nats :(
When I took over job as HOD it 3 yrs ago it was 18% pass rate if u count how many not entered and that wa sin AQA GCSE. 46% with that same course in 2nd year as changed to spec B we had almost negative figures with OCR dbl award gcse,, messed up big time with the c/w one year...that's a fantastic turn-around - well done :) Thanx it's been bloody sweat and tears but cudnt hav achieved 100% without OCR Nats as all other courses Ive tried are so s**t
we do first award - 2 units - with all, and first cert with those that opt for ict, and it's only just got interesting! the spreadsheet unit was fantastic - I should write it up like james's 1 / 23 yes defo started with a noughts and crosses game - macros, formatting, design, ifs and nested if, countif, sum, protection, all in one fun package!!
do u start OCR nats in y9? we started y8 this year, but i' think it'll prove to be too early, plus we have huge pupil mobility, so it's gonna be difficult
having said that, my last-but-one set in y8, have been doing M / D work without blinking for unit 21, year 11 barely scraped through
Does that not suggest y11 are totally switched off with ICT tho? yes, completely, i have a handful still interested in doing well, the rest are getting on with it-ish! interestingly, when we mapped it againt NC levels for Y8/9 PMD are levels 4,5,6
got to go, back later
Sorry Jennah just got tied for a min. I have to go now though but enjoyed finding more out about what you and your learners are doing. I suppose the question to leave you with is what do you want to get from this #ictcurric ?
at the mo, i'm loving meeting peeps who all want similar things, and have similar rants! I'd like this to be a sharing / suggestion place where we can help to iron out the wrinkles from the pants schemes that we're lumbered with, possibly figure ways through and around them (esp KS3, where there may be more leeway).
Ive been asked to look at our provision for next year, with SLT suggesting that we continue with Nationals in Year but also enter the whole cohort for the L2 FS. Little bit wary to push to early with repercussions on take up for Year 10/11. Currently have 1/3 of year group opting for Nationals on 2 lessons per week entered for Full Award (2). My plan was to continue this but add a layer for FS for other students who didnt opt for IT and then offer either GSCE ICT or Computing for GT/Higher students. Any thoughts on this??
Am lucky enough to be able to offer CIE IGCSE ICT for KS4 and this is great for brighter students - although don't know if the new GCSEs will rival it with their controlled assessment. Depending on who gets into government, it might be an option for next year. I researched loads of courses for KS4 before changing it in Sept & it gets a great reputation from teachers. Obviously don't know what results will be like but I really like it - as do students. Only issue is the Alevel is so dull (& easy in comparison) after it!
The bridge to Alevel has concerned me for ages as we have done well with results for past few years and take up is really good but kids get disengaged with the OCR Applied Alevel - v much like AVCE but very dry. Did to the Edexcel Applied for one year but abandoned by HOD, saying that i enjoyed teaching that.
We do WJEC Alevel - practical v simple (in AS) & a bit of a joke - but has that theory element that the students at my last school where we did applied would hae struggled - did Edexcel Applied & yes, I enjoyed it too but other teachers' didn't.
Exactly same problem i found but kids enjoyed the content and also the eportfolio aspect. On that front we did do Aida for one cohort and that again was interesting but the time factor was an issue. In ideal world would prefer to keep running with Nationals for the "core" and then supplementing for lower and higher. Thankds for the CIE IGCSE pointer though Zoe
we did the dida version, the kids found it hard to complete. One the whole same here, higher kids enjoyed but main prob was with staff! And of course the marking was a pain!
Pleasure - we did Dida too - with small numbers its ok, but blimey, what a lot of jumping through hoops & marking!
it wasn't hard to do, but the kids couldn't get the hang of all the cross referencing that wnet on,, and 'this task feeds into that task'
Yes, agree Sarah, that's a real pain!
Going back to what you said, Chris, about possibly offering computing for higher ability - I think that's maybe a good option, particularly if you do programming type stuff in KS3 - Ideally I'd run ICT IGCSE & IGCSE Computing (both CIE) - it's such a daft rule that state schools can't do IGCSEs - will def change soon IMO!
We have started to do Scratch with Year7/8 and also looking to do some stuff with Kodu when i get round to it! This would feed nicely into KS4 and for the Computing. We used to use Flowol which was functionional but kids love Scratch .
even our weak y8s love scratch! oddly, we're finding our weakest sets are way more into Scratch & Flash than the more able groups in y8.used flowol, which is ok
Scratch rocks :) Alice is really good too, as is Gamemaker - my students going crazy for them! Going to try Kodu this week - but a bit clunky is my 1st thought (although probably thought that about Alice too when I started :) Our network admin said there are some bug issues with Alice, but I'm having it installed on the next image anyway. Haven't had the chance to play yet, but it'd be a shame to leave our "programming" stuff at Scratch. I have sets of Lego mindstorm robots that we use with y5 &6, love it!! Blew £200 of last year's budget on one that I haven't taken out of the box yet... so many possibilities, so little time ;) do it, it's great! did you get the newer one? I'll find a link. http://www.amazon.co.uk/LEGO-8547-Mindstorms-NXT-Robot/dp/B001V7RF9U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=toys&qid=1271624107&sr=8-1 yeah they're the new ones, mine are like little tankshttp://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.it.uu.se/edu/course/homepage/realtid/H04/ass2/rcx.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.it.uu.se/edu/course/homepage/realtid/H04/ass2&usg=__o_u-tdcwEXGeY2uaduxcqRY568E=&h=367&w=284&sz=28&hl=en&start=4&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=nLNVVlbD_NBi9M:&tbnh=122&tbnw=94&prev
=/images%3Fq%3Dlego%2Brcx%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1 Cheers for the link! Cool - thanks!
The Lego robots are fab!! we are next to a CLC and they have a shed load of them so i used them a coupe of years ago with my Year 7 and all abilities found them engaging andchallenging - but agree expensive. More than the expense, it's the logistics of 600 bits of lego that I find daunting. I'd love to set up a club, but again - time...take them to the staff room, there's always someone who loves lego! I got donated a PS3 last year and still looking at ways of using this. We did something with Little Big Planet with the transition kids in Year 6 but need more time to develop. Hoping to get Xbox to tie in with the Kodu stuff. < *love* the look of Kodu, but annoys me that keyboard control isn't easier on the example stuff. Gonna look at buying USB Xbox controllers.I looked into them at Feb half term and they werent cheap i think but defo an option. Plan all this stuff for KS3 and heopfully feed into KS4! Yes, hoping to get xbox too - as you have all said, it's time to play that we need!! :)
how are you using xboxes? Looking to develop some games using Kodu on the PC's and then output to the Xbox (in theory!!!) KS3? Initially yes hope so
We're trying kodu out -that's me & students in my computer club :) on Thurs. They will have it sorted by Friday - me by sometime in the summer! Good luck with that, would be great to hear how it goes. Thats me defo off! By all and great to speak to you all
anyone do any animation stuff? claymation? Yes - do stop frame with year 9s, then into a bit of Action Script with Flash animation thingies - they really enjoy it! Could do it at any time though
sounds like you're well ahead of mine - i have an animation club of 1! I like it & so put it into the curriculum - worked really well, but have free reign, so am lucky! Once your club gets going & the word gets round I would think they'll get into it - loads of them do it at home!!!?
Thanks guys for all the ideas. Got to go and mark my Alevel before 2nd lesson tomorrow. I will try and opt in later or tomorrow. Cheers for all the hard work James! Been really fun :)nice to meet you
I love how quickly this has grown, but it's proof (if proof were necessary!) that we really need to have some kind of sit down discussion about it all. Could very quickly become unmanageable.a bit like now ;)
Incidentally, if you could toss me a short blurb about yourselves for the "who's involved?" page, I'll get them up asap. Gonna give you all admin access to it, but I want to sort out the bare bones first: http://ictcurric.org.uk/whos-involved/
Woo, we have a who's involved page :) Fab! Okay, I really need to get some last minute moderation prep done, but if you guys could have a think about what we want to put on the "about" page, that'd be great... I was having a bit of mental constipation earlier in terms of describing what it is we hope to do, exactly. Will give it some thought tomorrow Same here
Perhaps a web 2.0 resource bank could be added? started something off we could rip off at http://blog.astbury.com/p/web-20-showcase.html
Contributors:
- @jpgreenwood (James)
- @dwsm ( Donna )
- @jennah1000 (Sarah)
- @largerama (Nick)
- @infernaldepart (Chris)
- @zoeross19 (Zoe)
- @astburyp (Pete)
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ok here goes...
9 - 4 yes? yeahok
Look to start round 9:30 then? I reckon so. I'll likely be in before 9, so I'll head up to the cafe on the 3rd floor unless the room will be open. Ok. Will see what time I get there
Was thinking that best thing would be to give everyone a piece of paper as they come in where they can write down their 12 most wanted topics/tools/software they would like to see used in a new ictcurric AND a platform they would like to deliver from e.g. Moodle/Google etc Sounds good, though 12 might be a big ask - no need to quantify it, just the most wanted... if some do 2 & some do 20 it's all good. Want me to bring paper/pens? Please
Was thinking 12 to cover all half terms in 2 yrs that works, but only if you're looking at one topic/tool per half-term. I'm thinking about the possibility of broader topics but your right..why quantify. ok so leave it at as many as you want yeah, I reckon so. I think the best opener we could have is brief introduction of who we are, where we work & what we have to work with - hrs/wk, expectations from SLT, 2/3yr KS3... Yep but also need a scribe to note these details hmm... I might have been able to wangle one of the admin assistants if I'd thought about it earlier. we can take turns, and most of it will be tweeted anyway. yeah ok. could make it easier with a proforma, though? whatdyareckon to idea of this pirate pad being used to convey the notes of the day? great idea, so long as we aren't all hacking at it at once... we've seen how chaotic it can be, but with us all in one room it'll be carnage ;) Not if we only let scribe do it and invite those online to contribute on the chat window yeah, great idea. Ok thats sorted then. Just updating the agenda in gdocs and then will go get my washing in back in 5. Going to get washing now. Can you see the updated agenda? yeah. Just sorted http://piratepad.net/dadsow3 - let's use that for notes/discussion? ok bak now. So, a different/clean one for the meet? This will get unwieldy if we add much more to it, I reckon. What do you think? Yeah ur right. Good
So intro looks sorted.
Now lets look at the Opening Discussions..All looks fine to me but a little concerned about time that will all take
Needn't take long to give a brief intro
Maybe if we break it down a bit? I'd only spend 5 minutes talking about the Primary Review descriptors, and we all have a reasonable grasp on APP. Would like to talk about implementation of APP, though - my SLT are expecting interviews with students, setting targets & noting it all down on sheets... seems excessive to me.
Could do with mor einfo about APP, got the hang of the descriptors, but not a lot else...am i missing something? APP is good for planning. Had a really nice intro to it from my LA consultant - I'll share what she said if it'd help? I honestly think APP is the way forward for KS3 assessment. (sorry!)
But do we need to be creating a SOW that can be assessed under a variety of methods to take into account some future proofing and different assessment methods individual schools want to use i.e. focus is on the resources and that they be able to be used as you see fit?Agreed Absolutely, wouldn't want to force APP on anyone who didn't want to use it, but for me it's a good starting point when it comes to planning to ensure students are hitting different competencies in every project, rather than doing one, then another, then another - little & often works better. (sorry again!) Agreed. Base around that but also look at NC level descriptors to ensure fit
Some schools like the clear cut, projects, presentation, ss, db etc, but the kids learn better when you mix it up. i've seen it all year with Y7, they love it. They actually like identifying the different things they've done without realising. Cool so APP is agreed planning for assessment but other factors to be borne in mind. Gonna go back to Agenda now to see if it needs updating in light of what we have just discussed
I likeusing it, and the kids can see exactly where to go next. Haven't seen my LA cons for about 2 yrs
slightly off-topic, but i'm hosting the walsall ICT Challenge on 18th June - anyone else have something similar? Y9 kids from across the borough compete in (fairly basic!) ICT tasks. I set it up cos I was fed up of ICT not having a 'day'
There's a Kirklees ICT showcase, but I wasn't involved (!) - we have a school TV station (sounds far more exciting than it is), and the woman who runs that was asked to enter our kids. Happy days.
Right, have updated agenda a bit more. Pls hav a look Looks good, though 30 mins might be a bit of a push. Hav another luk now Ah, great. Will still be tight if everyone who is supposed to be coming does come but I feel we need to get through our experiences pretty quick to be able to get to a stage of saying what we plan to do Sure. Would it be worth having an early lunch, with everything before being context, everything after being the actual planning? Good in theory but not sure about timings re all that. Hang on I will just check if I have any details re timings.
Oh I have then: coffee and tea at 10.00am and 2.00pm; lunch at 12.15pm. Will update agenda now to take these into acct
Right, hows that look now? Initial planning discussions should be 10:15-12pm, right? Amended Looks fine - 1pm - 4pm will be planning? How can we divide up the time? Group conversations?
could decide projects / topics, then split up to work on them that'd be good - actually putting together a few tasks to form the basis of a topic's SoW V good idea but 1st should look at the notes written as we entered in the morn Sure, could use those to pair/group people up... we all have different focuses, but there'll be similarities throughout. Yep. Just amending agenda to reflect these now
Have to admit - I'm in this for the ideas - i want Y8 to be fun next year (someone said fizzy!!)lol, and it's completely open to being reworked - anything goes! Ditto. Got a slightly tired pair of schemes for y7/8 - happy to retool everything. Collapsed curriculum for my Y7, so some ideas on great stuff that (very) non-specialists can do wilol be very welcome. I tried some stuff this year, to varying degrees of success, but I have a sinking feeling that when they come to y8, it's gonna start with a mopping up excercise ouch! hmmm, casualty of lack of planning and training time for y7 team
What are we doing from 3.30? Wrapping up, I'd guess. OK :) im nearly there i reckon looks like! Just gonna make a list of what I need to bring
Right then chap and chappess - How does that look? Grand :) Great stuff. should we agree a 'stop ranting' signal?!! lol, we're ICT bods - it's what we do ;) Good thinking Sarah. It will be needed ;) Will think of something. Sarah - DM ur email add so I can email the parking arrangements OK, will do. Gotta go, lesson plans to write!! Hehe, I'll be off too... need an early night! Good night y'all and here's hopin for smooth running for a fantastic adventure
- Paper & pens
- External HDD (+documentaries)
- Digi cam thought about it, forgot but i have my phone
- laptop
